I have heard from a source that one pair is for a new dayflight from JFK - LHR
Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 1): Perhaps it has to do with SEA? Or were there already slots for this?
In addition to the SEA flight in the ATI filing, there was also mention of a second daily between DTW-LHR and a possible SLC-LHR flight.
Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 1): Perhaps it has to do with SEA? Or were there already slots for this?
Quoting willyj (Reply 2):
I have heard from a source that one pair is for a new dayflight from JFK - LHR
Are these slots from VS?
Quoting michman (Reply 3): In addition to the SEA flight in the ATI filing, there was also mention of a second daily between DTW-LHR and a possible SLC-LHR flight.
You have that link?
That would seemingly be related to VS and not an already occurred slot deal?
SEA is almost sure. For the second one, bets are open. I doubt that it will be for another JFK round-trip as DL and VS have to coordinate first their schedules between London and NYC. For example, DL 2 departs Heathrow at 1710 and VS 9 leaves LHR only 25 minutes later. SLC ? additional DTW ? A big surprise ? With SEA, IAH and DFW are the main lacks in the DL / VS network ex LHR...
I believe the slots are from Alitalia. The morning Rome flight and a Milan flight have been added to LCY and dropped from LHR I think.
Quoting michman (Reply 3): In addition to the SEA flight in the ATI filing, there was also mention of a second daily between DTW-LHR and a possible SLC-LHR flight.
That SLC_LHR flight would make more sense if they are trying to add to the LHR network...but...could a 764 do it?
I know this may never happen but i wish it'll be MCO! Connections would be easier for European citizens. It's hard to connect at LGW because usually it means that you'll have to stay overnight or travel across London through different airports.
Likely to be SEA and a 2nd DTW flight.
Quoting VCy (Reply 8): I know this may never happen but i wish it'll be MCO!
You're right. Won't happen on DL, especially since they are wanting a JV with VS who operates the route into Gatwick. It's a highly leisure market and they won't waste a valuable Heathrow slot on Orlando. I can see them launching Los Angeles, Washington DC, Dallas long before Orlando.
Any chance of them operating anything other than 764s (and the one 763) to LHR?
Quoting VCy (Reply 8): I know this may never happen but i wish it'll be MCO!
Such a low yielding route has nothing to do at LHR. Even BA with all their slots doesn't serve that route, so there is no way that DL would "waste" one of their slots on MCO.
Would a daylight flight from DTW make sense? Or would you lose productivity of the aircraft?
Quoting toltommy (Reply 13): Would a daylight flight from DTW make sense? Or would you lose productivity of the aircraft?
Schedule-wise it would be fine. But daylight eastbound transatlantics only work between large O&D markets, since the schedule doesn't allow connecting feed on either end (leaves DTW too early, gets into LHR too late). And I can't really see DTW having enough demand on its own.
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Quoting VCy (Reply 8): I know this may never happen but i wish it'll be MCO! Connections would be easier for European citizens.
DL + VS isn't going to support many European connections from LHR, and most Skyteam destinations MCO-LHR-XXX already have 1-stops MCO-JFK/ATL-XXX. MCO-LON really needs to survive on O&D.
They want to get an earlier evening departure out of DTW with an earlier arrival into LHR in addition to the current flight. The current flight departs after 10pm and doesn't arrive into LHR until around 11am. A daytime eastbound from DTW isn't going to be plausible.
Quoting kaitak (Reply 11):
Any chance of them operating anything other than 764s (and the one 763) to LHR?
SEA has turned into a 767-300 long haul hub for DL with CDG, KIX, PEK, PVG, HND, and the occasional additional AMS flight, so I would expect it to be a 763.
I though there was some mention of a slot buy from Atalia....maybe that was a rumor or one of the slots?
The possible cities Delta mentioned were SEA, 2nd DTW, and SLC but based on slots. That seems to be in order of importance. With the Virgin deal i think LHR slots will be possible and SLC will happen just maybe not soon. SEA seems like its gonna happen.
No.
The SEA slot is definately from Alitalia. Not sure about the other one, but I know it is not VS.
They have wanted RDU-LHR for years now.. I'm sure it's not for that, but who knows! ?
There is definitely not room for both AA and DL on rdu-lhr. Maybe they want in if AA leaves but no sign if them leaving.
Quoting kaitak (Reply 11): Any chance of them operating anything other than 764s (and the one 763) to LHR?
IMHO, DL would rather have frequency than capacity on the route -> Between the lines the other longhaul aircraft would be better suited elsewhere. The 764 is configured to the highest spec in the DL fleet; in my opinion.
A 744 or 77L would be a nice picture; but I doubt it would happen.
I don't believe these slots could be used for a day time flight. IIRC both are set for morning arrival into LHR and evening flights from the US.
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 7): That SLC_LHR flight would make more sense if they are trying to add to the LHR network...but...could a 764 do it?
763
this. Third option replace one of the leased slot pairs.
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 20): They have wanted RDU-LHR for years now.. I'm sure it's not for that, but who knows! ?
Its not.
AA will have to leave before Delta started RDU-LHR.
In 2011, Delta operated 10 weekly flights between DTW and LHR: The early evening departure from DTW was daily. A later departure (~11:00PM) operated 3x weekly (Tue, Wed, Sat).. Did this second flight ever operate daily?
25 PSU.DTW.SCE: No. DL has never gone more than 10x per week on DTW-LHR. That particular slot was shared at 3x per week DTW, 4x per week ATL.
26 Deltal1011man: and then went to the 2nd or 3rd daily ATL-LHR flight.
27 cessna2: And still do. If AA leaves DL will take the route. If the new AA doesn't then DL will start CDG. Alot depends on what happens once all the mergers ar
28 questions: Could DL profitably deploy one of its 744s on a route to/from LHR? If so, which one(s)?
29 RyanairGuru: I disagree, for a start if RDU is profitable on O&D alone then it makes sense to keep it. Also don't forget that this flight is part of the JBA m
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